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Steve Hewitt's avatar

I am sure that Burnham wouldn't have been anywhere near as duplicitous as Starmer has been but I have little confidence that he would have the strength to face down the influences behind the current leadership even if McSwindler is sacked. It would be far better were Burnham and those from the soft-left-to-socialist members of the parliamentary party to quit the whip (and the mayoral post in Burnham's case) then either leave politics altogether or find spines and get on board with the Independent Alliance - also resigning and forcing by-elections while they are at it. UK politics is due a shake-up and unfortunately the Sultana-Corbyn thing has already blown the opportunity for that ... hopefully just for now, maybe - but I am not holding my breath.

I left the Party when RLB was sacked from the shadow cabinet - no, not Regis le Bris, though even he has more honesty and integrity in his left big toe than Starmer has shown in the last six years at least. The parliamentary party is fkd, with no chance of rehabilitation (the Tories likewise) ... so to keep fascists out of power in 2029, everyone else (Greens certainly, even the clown Davey) needs to figure out a strategy to stop them, then to agree to a working version of PR. I have maybe ten years left if I am lucky (twenty if I am unlucky) and two things sustain my will to continue for a while longer - to see PR in UK politics and the political immolation of the state of Israel (not the people physically, do not misrepresent these words). Clouds and cuckoos.

Haway the Lads! Yep, I know, sport and politics eh? The Lasses too of course but after losing 5-0 away to Liverpool in the League Cup yesterday ... er ...

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Jane Peryer's avatar

It has been known a long time how there was a conspiracy to bring down Jeremy. Aljazeera's three investigations followed by one for the Forde Review. There are also three on the Israel lobby. They are all available to watch on Youtube. They got an handed an enormous stash of papers and so put !The Labour Files' into youtube. It was extremely revealing. Im not saying the book isn't valuable but how much new information can there be? There was so much to take in, having watched all of them. But I will just have to read his book anyway now! It made me angry that Starmer spent loads of people's membership fees to pay off a legal case he could have easily won, according to his own legal advice. It showed just how deep Israel has poisoned institutions because even the EHCR has been infiltrated. The Forde Report revealed a culture of racism - not antisemitism but anti muslim. He said there was a hierarchy of racism and certainly gave the impression it was rife. That is disgusting and I could not ever forgive Labour under a new leader or not. They are dead and buried and are not getting a resurrection!

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Tricia Cassel-Gerard's avatar

Phew! Another conundrum. I think I agree with Steve Hewitt… is the Labour Party too broken to fix? Since the conspiracy on Corbyn and the following eviction of anyone half decent.. I am always a bit nervous about the good remainers like Richard Burgon. Andy Burnham seems kosher but Blairite past.. shudder. Obviously the stuff he’s done as mayor is excellent. We do have a few in that role, like the embattled Sadiq Khan, but to sort out the actual parliamentary Labour Party might be a hill to die on. If he was an MP he would possibly be the man to point to when they say” but who would replace Starver? “ with Richard as VP?

God I’m tired. We are all getting too old, Corbyn and McDonnell included.

If there was a way to get rid of Reform the Greens and Indies could spearhead recovery but Reform is another Brexit in the pipe. Eg. Masses of people voting for the wrong thing because of propaganda and mis direction.

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