Racist Nigel farage has done so much harm to so many people in Britain including immigrants and dodgy people farage have committed so many financial crimes by selling his service to billionaires who are dodgy themselves like Christopher harborne who have bought so many politicians including prime ministers Boris Johnson and others by them millions to destroy British economy by asking those corrupt politicians to take Britain out of Europe and he also gave one million pounds to dodgy criminal Boris Johnson who is another most corrupt criminal politicians to tell the fanatical Jew who is the Ukrainian president not to sign peace deal with Russia and criminal Boris Johnson made how many million from other military industrial complex owners no one knows how much because Britain is controlled by Zionist Jews that's why Boris Johnson not investigated yet
Exactly. In the same way MAGA types support Trump despite his breaking every know rule and law. It's not because he breaks them, but because he gets away with it, and they admire him for it - because they'd like to be able to do that themselves.
Despite everything Deform still has a large number of fans. They consistently poll at least 25% of votes despite the evidence that when they take charge of anything like councils, they make a complete hash of it, and despite the lies they all tell and despite the fact that the party is full of old Tories who large numbers of people previously seemed to have loathed. It’s weird, to us anyhow.
Perhaps the real insight is that some voters don’t like hypocrisy in spite of itself—they like it because it’s hypocrisy, and they like the fact that everyone else is so bothered by it
Double standard in how violence and calls to engage in violence are reported by our media adds to hyper-hypocritical atmosphere that has indulged Farage throughout his public facing 'on and off ' decades long political career. So, facing long overdue scrutiny and demands for accountability about his dodgy financial donations, gifts, loans, no surprise Farage and his sidekick lackeys created a story out of nothing much- an inadvertent mistake by Polanski , whose online presence is prolific , with group captures more than he can pay close attention to. Sure a lesson has been learnt. Press , media are just waiting to follow anything that might undermine him personally, and the Green Party.
What is telling is how quickly right wing press piled in to attack Polanski and the Green Party.
Even the Guardian had ' frustrated Greens' briefing that Polanski spends too much time online.
What they should have been doing is confidently rebutting the double standards of Reform UK/Farage when it comes to incitement to violence. Farage called for 'stone cold rage' , vanished off air when Jo Cox was brutally murdered during divisive EU Referendum, glorified call for asylum seekers to be burnt as free speech . And going further back, spent his teenage years marching around playground picking on Jewish, Asian fellow pupils, hissing or pointing ' go back'.
Nigel Farage has form. And the press, media need reminding of that fact.
Polanski right not to apologise - increasing these calls for 'sorry' are as performative and hypocritical as the story itself
I can't think of anything I'm less concerned about, than a supposed "threat" against Nigel.
Also: Be reasonable, Owen... BREATHING leaves Zack "vulnerable to bad-faith attacks."
Zack shouldn't change his behaviour AT ALL.
Attempting to be perfect, is weak and foolish; it not only fails to appease bad-faith attackers, but it's also off-putting to people who LIKE Zack as he is. I will like him LESS if he takes your advice. He should absolutely NOT start pulling punches, second-guessing himself, and becoming more mealy-mouthed & fake.
Telling someone to try to control the uncontrollable, is just bad advice.
Nor does the photograph actually call for Farage’s beheading. It does not make any demand at all. It is obviously crude satire. There is no shortage of jokes involving Madame Guillotine in British political culture. Let’s be serious here.
With the greatest respect, Owen, I cannot think of any other jokes involving Madame Guillotine in British political culture, and certainly none from the Right. The last time I can recall anything even vaguely alluding to political violence from the right was the Young Conservatives’ ‘Blue Dawn’ poster in the late ‘80s.
Zack Polanski needs to realise that he is an aspirant prime minister, not a student union rep., and start acting like one.
Nope. He should continue to be exactly the person he is. The same person who has gained so much support. And you should take a sober second look at Boris, if you've somehow convinced yourself that Zack is too juvenile to be elected Prime Minister. Zack's sense of humour is a feature, not a bug, and unlike Boris, Zack's humour is layered over a foundation of decency. Zack will not be improved, by listening to back-biters, who tell him to change.
With respect, you sound little different from the Farage fan-club.
If all ZP aspires to do is lead a minority opposition party, fine. Yet, if he aspires to win a general election and to head the government (to enable him to achieve the policies that he espouses), then he has to appeal to a broader constituency than he currently does and secure their votes.
That does not require him to change his sense of humour; but it does mean that he needs to think more carefully about how he represents both himself and his party. Whatever you think of the “New” Labour years, Blair won - repeatedly - in large part due to the message discipline imposed by Mandelson and Campbell. (Farage is in a similar position, albeit with different challenges.)
Always remember that "a WOMAN explicitly called for ... set on fire" whenever you are struggling against misandrist feminism accusing all violence of coming from men, and like Justice For Innocent Men Scotland, against the bias to assume men guilty of body violations on women's accusation alone and deny that false ones happen.
First of all, let's agree that Reform makes jokes much worse than this, and makes them more often than the Greens do. Let’s also both agree to criticise Farage’s disingenuous outrage — but the Greens, and the left more generally, are outraged by such trivia just as often as Reform. I doubt it scores either too many political points, and I would wish for freedom of speech for them both.
I’d also wish for freedom speech for the woman who said, roughly, “do a bad thing, for all I care”. Those of us who object (me included) should shake our heads in disgust, not send her to prison for three years.
WHAT!? Nigel Farage a hypocrite? I’m aghast!
Racist Nigel farage has done so much harm to so many people in Britain including immigrants and dodgy people farage have committed so many financial crimes by selling his service to billionaires who are dodgy themselves like Christopher harborne who have bought so many politicians including prime ministers Boris Johnson and others by them millions to destroy British economy by asking those corrupt politicians to take Britain out of Europe and he also gave one million pounds to dodgy criminal Boris Johnson who is another most corrupt criminal politicians to tell the fanatical Jew who is the Ukrainian president not to sign peace deal with Russia and criminal Boris Johnson made how many million from other military industrial complex owners no one knows how much because Britain is controlled by Zionist Jews that's why Boris Johnson not investigated yet
Just a thought - could be that Reform are appealing to a demographic who actually like hypocrisy.
Exactly. In the same way MAGA types support Trump despite his breaking every know rule and law. It's not because he breaks them, but because he gets away with it, and they admire him for it - because they'd like to be able to do that themselves.
Despite everything Deform still has a large number of fans. They consistently poll at least 25% of votes despite the evidence that when they take charge of anything like councils, they make a complete hash of it, and despite the lies they all tell and despite the fact that the party is full of old Tories who large numbers of people previously seemed to have loathed. It’s weird, to us anyhow.
Perhaps the real insight is that some voters don’t like hypocrisy in spite of itself—they like it because it’s hypocrisy, and they like the fact that everyone else is so bothered by it
Hear, hear!
Double standard in how violence and calls to engage in violence are reported by our media adds to hyper-hypocritical atmosphere that has indulged Farage throughout his public facing 'on and off ' decades long political career. So, facing long overdue scrutiny and demands for accountability about his dodgy financial donations, gifts, loans, no surprise Farage and his sidekick lackeys created a story out of nothing much- an inadvertent mistake by Polanski , whose online presence is prolific , with group captures more than he can pay close attention to. Sure a lesson has been learnt. Press , media are just waiting to follow anything that might undermine him personally, and the Green Party.
What is telling is how quickly right wing press piled in to attack Polanski and the Green Party.
Even the Guardian had ' frustrated Greens' briefing that Polanski spends too much time online.
What they should have been doing is confidently rebutting the double standards of Reform UK/Farage when it comes to incitement to violence. Farage called for 'stone cold rage' , vanished off air when Jo Cox was brutally murdered during divisive EU Referendum, glorified call for asylum seekers to be burnt as free speech . And going further back, spent his teenage years marching around playground picking on Jewish, Asian fellow pupils, hissing or pointing ' go back'.
Nigel Farage has form. And the press, media need reminding of that fact.
Polanski right not to apologise - increasing these calls for 'sorry' are as performative and hypocritical as the story itself
I can't think of anything I'm less concerned about, than a supposed "threat" against Nigel.
Also: Be reasonable, Owen... BREATHING leaves Zack "vulnerable to bad-faith attacks."
Zack shouldn't change his behaviour AT ALL.
Attempting to be perfect, is weak and foolish; it not only fails to appease bad-faith attackers, but it's also off-putting to people who LIKE Zack as he is. I will like him LESS if he takes your advice. He should absolutely NOT start pulling punches, second-guessing himself, and becoming more mealy-mouthed & fake.
Telling someone to try to control the uncontrollable, is just bad advice.
Nor does the photograph actually call for Farage’s beheading. It does not make any demand at all. It is obviously crude satire. There is no shortage of jokes involving Madame Guillotine in British political culture. Let’s be serious here.
With the greatest respect, Owen, I cannot think of any other jokes involving Madame Guillotine in British political culture, and certainly none from the Right. The last time I can recall anything even vaguely alluding to political violence from the right was the Young Conservatives’ ‘Blue Dawn’ poster in the late ‘80s.
Zack Polanski needs to realise that he is an aspirant prime minister, not a student union rep., and start acting like one.
Nope. He should continue to be exactly the person he is. The same person who has gained so much support. And you should take a sober second look at Boris, if you've somehow convinced yourself that Zack is too juvenile to be elected Prime Minister. Zack's sense of humour is a feature, not a bug, and unlike Boris, Zack's humour is layered over a foundation of decency. Zack will not be improved, by listening to back-biters, who tell him to change.
With respect, you sound little different from the Farage fan-club.
If all ZP aspires to do is lead a minority opposition party, fine. Yet, if he aspires to win a general election and to head the government (to enable him to achieve the policies that he espouses), then he has to appeal to a broader constituency than he currently does and secure their votes.
That does not require him to change his sense of humour; but it does mean that he needs to think more carefully about how he represents both himself and his party. Whatever you think of the “New” Labour years, Blair won - repeatedly - in large part due to the message discipline imposed by Mandelson and Campbell. (Farage is in a similar position, albeit with different challenges.)
"With respect."
lol
Always remember that "a WOMAN explicitly called for ... set on fire" whenever you are struggling against misandrist feminism accusing all violence of coming from men, and like Justice For Innocent Men Scotland, against the bias to assume men guilty of body violations on women's accusation alone and deny that false ones happen.
Typical attempt of misdirection from Farage who will go to any lengths to try and deflect unfavourable attention to him and his loathsome party.
I sincerely hope that the gullible are stirring from their slumbers and waking up to the reality that is Reform.
First of all, let's agree that Reform makes jokes much worse than this, and makes them more often than the Greens do. Let’s also both agree to criticise Farage’s disingenuous outrage — but the Greens, and the left more generally, are outraged by such trivia just as often as Reform. I doubt it scores either too many political points, and I would wish for freedom of speech for them both.
I’d also wish for freedom speech for the woman who said, roughly, “do a bad thing, for all I care”. Those of us who object (me included) should shake our heads in disgust, not send her to prison for three years.