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David Wolfe's avatar

Thanks for picking up this topic Owen. You observe that "Bi men tend not to come out because they are considered gay - by both men and women". I agree on the "tending not to come out" bit. But the explanation you then give itself applies only to bi men publicly in relationships with men and ignores those of us bi men who are publicly in relationships with women. We are generally assumed straight, and so (perhaps speaking only for myself) tend not to come out. If we do, as i am happy to do we end up being doubted by everyone and assumed promiscuous by everyone. There is work to be done. Thanks for at least helping to move the dialogue forward. David W, London.

Emmeejay's avatar

I think bisexuality is far more common amongst women than recognised or perhaps acknowledged. In my teens during the late 60s and early 70s many of my women friends were in same sex relationships. We were politically active, read Spare Rib, talked of female emancipation and orgasms, and felt we had more in common with gay men than straight ones, while my boyfriends rejected masculine gender norms, had flowing hair, wore makeup and listened to Bowie. Fast forward a generation, my 15 year old daughter announced that “all the girls in my class are gay”. Politics definitely not a factor for this cohort. It became New Romantics, Boy George and fabulous gay clubs like Heaven where girls felt safe to lose themselves in Ecstasy and each other away from dangerously toxic straight masculinity. Another generation, granddaughters living hectic City lives, working 50+ hour weeks to pay for a room in shared houses with other women, too busy for relationships with men with their subsequent imperatives and boundaries. Social lives crammed into a night and the occasional weekend with friends who get it, enjoy the moment and don’t want or ask for more. I have a bi male friend whose experience of living as a bi man couldn’t be more different. It becomes a label, an identity, something that defines his relationships in a different way. Just a few thoughts.

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